@dotstdy @mcc yep, the forced snapification of everything (and especially firefox) is the main reason why I won't be installing Ubuntu anywhere anymore. Fool me once and all that. Pity because it used to be the distro I could put on machine I didn't want to get handsy with. Oh well, back to Debian 12 even for non-power users it seems.
@oblomov Can you elaborate a little bit on snapification and why that's bad? I don't have much linux desktop experience outside of loading ElementaryOS for some family. I know what Snap is, but not sure if that's what you're talking about