@mcc only one of those issues is a ubuntu problem anyway....

@mcc only one of those issues is a ubuntu problem anyway. then there's a few wayland ones, and i guess the last one is just firefox being broken. it's certainly a game of choose your broken, or perhaps roll the dice and have the broken chosen for you.

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mcc

@dotstdy I'm not using Wayland. At least one of the issues is a Snap issue.

9 July at 20:14 | Open on mastodon.social

Josh Simmons

@mcc the "popups opening in the background" is an xwayland issue, unless there's a specific bonus problem with your configuration, hurray for a rare dice roll. the firefox attachment one is because you're using snap indeed (which is arguably a ubuntu thing because snap is ubuntu only madness).

9 July at 20:16 | Open on mastodon.social

mcc

@dotstdy I'm not using Wayland

9 July at 20:16 | Open on mastodon.social

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@mcc gnome tweaks might help with the backgrounded windows

9 July at 20:51 | Open on hachyderm.io

Louis Ingenthron

@mcc @dotstdy Can confirm, I see the same behaviour on X11. Sometimes even like very basic Open File Dialogs appear in back with a notification.

10 July at 0:31 | Open on qoto.org

Oblomov

@dotstdy @mcc yep, the forced snapification of everything (and especially firefox) is the main reason why I won't be installing Ubuntu anywhere anymore. Fool me once and all that. Pity because it used to be the distro I could put on machine I didn't want to get handsy with. Oh well, back to Debian 12 even for non-power users it seems.

9 July at 20:59 | Open on sociale.network

bhcompy

@oblomov Can you elaborate a little bit on snapification and why that's bad? I don't have much linux desktop experience outside of loading ElementaryOS for some family. I know what Snap is, but not sure if that's what you're talking about

9 July at 23:24 | Open on hachyderm.io

Raven667

@oblomov @dotstdy @mcc it's getting to be funny to me that a company self-described as "Canonical" is never able get traction on any of their technology initiatives, every one ends up in a tech preview/public beta state for years without the resources needed to fully work out the issues, before they abandon the project and move onto the next shiny. They are still very popular and have a lot of available documentation to maintain your system, but damn.

10 July at 2:12 | Open on hachyderm.io

mcc

@raven667 @oblomov @dotstdy on the other hand I must admit now that I've seen Wayland in its completed state I'm wondering if maybe we shoulda just let Mir happen

10 July at 2:14 | Open on mastodon.social

dcbaok

@mcc @dotstdy yeah any firefox brokenness on ubuntu I blame on snap first until proven otherwise

9 July at 20:16 | Open on fosstodon.org