Gregory's Server@mcc I didn't see it in the thread, but what laptop are you using?
(Not that it's relevant to your case, but I've used Ubuntu on Thinkpads -- never, ever the latest model, however -- for a long time with good results.)
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 @akkana @dangillmor There was a regression in the 6.8.x kernel series somewhere around April and that's what's causing me problems now. @akkana @dangillmor But ofc sleep/wake problems can have lots of causes and show up in a lot of OSes/configurations, some people seem to have problems with this even on Windows. I have learned the root problem is something called "S0ix", but apparently S0ix chipsets are all you can buy now @dangillmor Lenovo ThinkPad T14 Gen 3 (AMD). I specifically selected this machine for Linux compatibiliy… >_> I think that my most serious problems stem from: - Using newest versions of Ubuntu instead of 22.04 @mcc @dangillmor I was also surprised at how volatile Ubuntu 24.04 seemed to me on Framework 16. It feels like LTS really needs to age for a year or two before its fully stable :D @levlaz @dangillmor Yeah. I … didn't expect this to be the case. "Well of course you don't install LTS until it hits .1" is apparently common knowledge in the Linux desktop community but was not common knowledge to me. LTS: "Long term support but NOT short term support"???  @mcc @levlaz @dangillmor Funny enough this is outright baked in at the *upgrade* level, LTS installs don't get upgrade notifications or even offers until the .1
Which really raises the question of why the general public is encouraged to install it fresh before then!  @mcc@mastodon.social @dangillmor@mastodon.social I wonder if Fedora is any better (I officially gave up on Linux as a workstation OS a couple years ago)  @mcc Yeah, I'm cautious about using the latest OS if I have a choice. I'll probably wait for 24.04.2 before I upgrade Ubuntu on my primary machine (and will do a clean install). Also yeah re screen resolution stuff, not ideal (though I mostly use the machine in clamshell mode with big external monitor). I like/hate Snaps and Flatpacks and even .deb but wish the ecosystem would settle on something and stick with it. If you ever have to use the command line, an OS is not for "regular" folks.  @dangillmor @mcc Yeah the Linux community knows that, and always hand-wave it away (afaict.) I run Fedora (with Gnome+Wayland) on a somewhat older ThinkPad X1 and it DOES NOT have the same problems you're listing here. I really think your problem is either Ubuntu or Snap. |
@dangillmor @mcc I'm running Linux on a Lenovo Carbon X1 and maybe one time out of five if I sleep it when not connected to external power/monitor, it won't wake up and I have to power-cycle. I've been assuming it's a Lenovo problem; I've been happily using desktop/laptop Linux for a quarter century (though not with gnome or wayland) and all the non-Lenovo machines could wake up reliably.