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Top-level
 - Firefox can't show image previews when selecting attachments (because of "security", somehow) - Often, when I direct a program to open a new window, GNOME refuses to let the program do it, and instead opens the window at the back of the stack and shows a top-of-screen notification letting me know there's a new window (I guess also "security") - Just fresh weird stuff happening at random intervals. Since last week, when I right click in Firefox, I can't click on the menu. It's happening RN 120 comments
Note: I assume that I will get responses to these posts (okay, I was GOING to say that, but I have got two such responses so far, I didn't even get to finish typing the thread) saying I wouldn't have problems if I didn't use Ubuntu. *I don't believe you!* Using a different distro means yanking an arm on a slot machine. MAYBE I get a functioning system. MAYBE it gets worse! And the cost of *trying* is a few days of intensive work and maybe screwing up my daily-use computer.   @mcc only one of those issues is a ubuntu problem anyway. then there's a few wayland ones, and i guess the last one is just firefox being broken. it's certainly a game of choose your broken, or perhaps roll the dice and have the broken chosen for you. @mcc the "popups opening in the background" is an xwayland issue, unless there's a specific bonus problem with your configuration, hurray for a rare dice roll. the firefox attachment one is because you're using snap indeed (which is arguably a ubuntu thing because snap is ubuntu only madness).  @dotstdy @mcc yep, the forced snapification of everything (and especially firefox) is the main reason why I won't be installing Ubuntu anywhere anymore. Fool me once and all that. Pity because it used to be the distro I could put on machine I didn't want to get handsy with. Oh well, back to Debian 12 even for non-power users it seems.  @mcc Heh, I was going to say "try Ubuntu, it's worked pretty seemlessly on my laptop". the struggle is real though Someday Cosmic DE will get released, and I will switch to Pop!_OS, and then all the problems on my laptop will be because Cosmic DE is an unfinished product rather than because GNOME is a finished product which made design decisions I disagree with, and I will be Happy because the problems with my laptop will be happening for the correct reasons   Note: I don't mind Snap. I'd rather my OS be using Flatpak, but I mostly use Snap on purpose and I don't specifically object to my applications being installed as Snap. I just want Snap/Flatpak to like… work right.  @mcc I agree that as an end user you shouldn't have to care about the philosophy of native v/s namespace v/s whatever snap does, you should just be able to trust the OS default to JustWork(tm). but this is kind of why I have been against this whole snap and flatpak business. I trust my distro, and by extension, the native packages the maintainers have put in the repos to work well in concert with each other. @double_a_runi Well, my experience is that the distro maintainers are very, very conservative and always have very old versions of things, and that Homebrew is very high quality and always has new versions of things, so I'm in principle interested in a software distribution system that looks more like Homebrew than apt @mcc wait we have brew on Linux? anyway yeah, you are describing why I slowly moved from ubuntu -> mint -> arch . ubuntu got annoying, and mint packages were always old. I know arch is a meme, but its been working for me, and I will move to something else when it stops working for me? @double_a_runi I was using OS X locally and linux only on servers until quite recently! Then I rapidly abandoned Mac for Windows and then rapidly abandoned Windows for Linux. But also, yeah, you can use Homebrew on Linux, if you're feeling adventurous… https://docs.brew.sh/Homebrew-on-Linux @mcc curl to bash to install, looks promising. sorry I have nothing useful to reply, I've used brew to install lima on macos, so I can have linux in there, but not beyond that. I don't know how it works, and what kind of conflicts it can have. @mcc are you attached to gnome, because if not, I would suggest a more consistent DE? (I know I just apologized for replies like this, but gnome is especially pesky in my experience. I have to deal with gnome on my office workstation, and I hate it) @double_a_runi I am very picky about margins on interface elements and IMO the ones in GNOME are Good and the ones in KDE and FVWM are Bad . Despite this I may switch to KDE at some point simply because I very much like Qt. My current plan is to shelter in place until Cosmic lands (see post elsewhere in thread) and if I'm already doing that then switching to Kubuntu only to quickly tear it down again is not a good use of time.  @mcc I have never once heard the advice to switch distros come from somebody who wanted to make any effort whatsoever to understand and solve a problem, only from people who want to say they don't have your problem. I have had success forcibly disabling touchscreens by adding the appropriate module - "usbtouchscreen" I think? to /etc/modules.d/blacklist, but you're I think right to consider this an indignity.   @mcc@mastodon.social Yeah, my experience is that changing distros can fix some problems while introducing new ones. Like I went from Debian to Ubuntu and it improved hardware support while causing a number of other issues.  @mcc Depressed chuckle at the replies suggesting things that are far beyond the scope of "thin support system that allows a web browser to run." Me: "my streetcar keeps getting caught in traffic due to city policies" Some Linux fans: "Oh I've seen that before, don't worry, just repave the street in a new shape and you'll be all set." @mcc I call it the 'emacs gambit', and it works with almost every tech problem. I love Mastodon! ;)    @saddestrobots Thanks, I'll look into it. There was a plugin that ameliorated the "touchscreen mode" issue by permanently killing the GNOME on-screen keyboard, but then I upgraded and it stopped working. Lol. *sad trombone* Every tutorial that includes "just run 'apt upgrade' " infuriates me. No! I need to fix this one specific issue. Not spend the next 8+ hours figuring out which package upgrades broke my dependency stack and downgrading packages by trial and error.  @mcc@mastodon.social  @mcc it took me forever to understand why, when I accidentally pressed CTRL-O instead of ALT-O in VS Code, I got a random popup that said that the application was ready and then it became completely unresponsive. Turns out it was showing the "open file" dialog *behind* the window, but still somehow making it modal. Because Wayland? I dunno. Now I at least know how to fix it without having to close and restart Code, but it was driving me absolutely nuts for a while. @mcc I haven't used gnome in a bit for anything but playing around with breezy so I don't know the specifics there though @mcc This mirrors my experience of Linux, and I was using Ubuntu *inside a VM*. It's the most controlled environment possible - how is it still such a trainwreck? |
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I can use even a very poorly functioning OS because the OS, to me, is just a thin support system that allows a web browser to run. Linux is not succeeding well at this very minimal goal.