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Veronica Explains

KDE Plasma is great. GNOME is awesome. Window managers are wonderful. Everything has quirks but I love all these options we have. I can't wait to see where we take them.

#Linux

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aZa ☎️5190

@vkc 100% this!!

Everything has its advantages and disadvantages, but in the end its personal preference :)

Julian

@vkc Seems way harder to say than "X sucks" nowadays but you're totally right. We have so much awesome stuff at our fingertips

Brett Flippin

@vkc

Everyone that doesn’t use the one I use is WRONG.

Keen

@vkc I'm just happy I don't have to deal with explorer.exe

cameronbosch :endeavourOS:

@vkc When it comes to the DEs / WMs / Wayland compositors themselves, I agree. Unfortunately, some projects have very rude developers working for them, and those people end up ruining it for others like me.

supernov

@cameronbosch @vkc problem with that, for me, is that every project seems to have "that one". Thereby I can't use anything. I jist decided to choose the product and not a person (unless it's a reallllly bad person ofcourse).

Vint Prox

@supernov @cameronbosch @vkc Unless the unwanted party has their hands on the UI/UX most of the time, all is usable to me. I found frontend to be a face of any project that only benefits users under such scrutiny. The next on the list would probably be an API, as it's a dev user land, and if they can't find the common ground with the prominent contributors it'll soon be nobody's land.

Miroslav Kravec

@cameronbosch @vkc as a consumer using open-source for free (mostly, except few donations), I don't care at all, whether the developer(s) is rude or not. If the developer(s) does the good job producing useful software for people, it's what counts the most.

Of course, nice is better. But value over niceness.

And, don't forget it's often charitable act of those developers... Unless one is sponsoring them, there's zero right for acting entitled about developer's time and attention.

cameronbosch :endeavourOS:

@kravemir @vkc I agree EXCEPT when that project is in a position of power and their decisions hurt other projects as well. (I'd rather not give examples.)

Miroslav Kravec

@cameronbosch @vkc well, that's beyond rude. More like hostile or harmful.

And, one can be nice, but still hostile and harmful, and making decisions that hurt other projects.

Oliver Sampson

@vkc And none of them are #spyware. I'm side-eyeing you, #Microsoft and #Apple.

JefeBromden

@vkc
2024 is the year of the Dragon in China

I think a Linux Zodiac would be handy. We can have a KDE year and say 'Well Fediverse and Open Source Community, let's focus on KDE', and all our collective minds would be working on the same thing, like a huge living organism

It's the Linux philosophy, 'Do ONE thing and do it well'

Veronica Explains

@jamespthomas Pick a distro and go! So much of the "Stop using X use Y instead" stuff is algorithmically-driven nonsense, so I stay out of the habit of making straight recommendations.

Personally, I use Debian on most of my machines, and the installer lets you choose between GNOME, KDE Plasma, Cinnamon, XFCE, and probably a few others I'm not mentioning. I personally like KDE Plasma out of that group but only because it's very customizable (perhaps to a fault).

njsg

@vkc The #linux virtual console is wonderful too. I did for a while (that was over a decade ago) work mostly from these. With framebuffer and fbi, I could even view images. I guess it went well because I was doing most stuff from inside #Emacs. (Some of this was on a laptop where, unlike XFree86, XOrg couldn't use the full/"native" video mode, I don't recall why. But the framebuffer console would use the full screen area.)

Carlos Solís

Long story short: each of them has its usage case, and not everyone has the same usage cases.

GNOME is for the people that want a clean, straightforward desktop

KDE is for the people that want a highly customizable desktop with classic paradigms

XFCE and LXQt/LXDE are for people that want a classic desktop with fewer system resources

Tiling managers are for advanced users that are proficient with keyboard shortcuts and the terminal, and find themselves bottlenecked with the usual paradigm

But, of course, to the GNOME user, there's no apparent point in the existence of the tiling manager, and the same goes vice versa. Choice is something we must be glad to have in the Linux/BSD world, because otherwise we're stuck with dealing with a single paradigm that nobody's perfectly happy with - just ask the people trying to customize Windows 11!

Long story short: each of them has its usage case, and not everyone has the same usage cases.

GNOME is for the people that want a clean, straightforward desktop

KDE is for the people that want a highly customizable desktop with classic paradigms

XFCE and LXQt/LXDE are for people that want a classic desktop with fewer system resources

Root Moose

@vkc I was wistfully thinking about #fvwm the other day and took a gander hoping there was a #wayland version in the works. Alas, no joy.

I’m running #Cosmicde on my workhorse nowadays. I like it. Really looking forward to the direction it goes as it forks from #gnome

Michael A. Murphy :system76:

@chris @vkc Keep in mind that it's not a fork of GNOME though. Or a fork of anything. A new ground-up approach to building a desktop environment in Rust.

Markus
@all The wonderful thing about Linux is that you can choose your own graphical user interface.
Larry Smith

@vkc
I tend to go lite, with icewm, or jwm, or fluxbox.

Jigme Datse

@vkc I want to love KDE Plasma... But the level of quirks often ends up with me just giving up on it. Maybe I'm just "doing it wrong". For myself, I use Openbox, for others I tend to use XFCE4.

-glen-

@vkc ended up costing Mint a couple years ago and thus I’m a fan of Cinammon!

It’s pretty great to have so many options!

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