Gregory's Server@tessaracht
Hard agree to disagree.
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@tessaracht Yeah, if you want bleeding edge software* you're going to encounter breakage, but that's not how most people use computers. * And yeah, I consider Wayland to be bleeding edge. The only time I ever needed it was for OBS, and most users aren't streamers.  @Mux @tessaracht but wayland is the default on ubuntu since 21. common use of a computer is for example gaming. On average windows machine the user buys the pc with preinstalled whatever, you install steam, the game and then play. Ez. On linux you search a day for working driver setup because you choose nvidia and nothing works, you need to learn how a terminal works what you never needed before. Then steam doesnt start because you chose the wrong setup method out of 4 Each saying they are the best. Then your game doesnt start because random shit and you need to learn how to use proton with 10 choices sounding like jokes (eggroll?). Yeah you can say 50% of the problems are not caused by linux itself but 3rd partys. But thats the experience for many users vs windows were it just works and if it doesnt you are 1 easy google search fix away vs days of wtf is that terminal command doing. I use linux for decades and got many users into it but it is still a pain. And it just fucks me up how many people say „there is no problem I dont know what you are talking about“ because they just are nerds that use computers in an entirely different way doing entirely different things then the majority of consumers and just deciding their way is the normal lol @Mux @tessaracht ? No this is exactly a reason to switch to linux. We must know different kind of people. People just buy a computer and use it for everything, gaming, office, web. I dont talk about some nerd buying a „gaming rig“. You hear „just run linux“ if you dont want to change to win11 with all problems or if you are concerned the kernel level cheat detection may spy on your online banking. And people believe linux is the solution. |
@Mux @afewbugs let's set aside gnome & kde breaking on point releases, the systemd mess, the shitshow with nvidia drivers, the lack of wayland support in tons of major apps, the broken support for decade old features like hidpi and hdr, the increase in time to fix on breaking issues in major distros, etc. my question would be... why do you think things are fine when usage numbers show they're not? your argument seems to be "the users are wrong", which just proves the OP's point. 🤷♀️