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mcc

@pinkdrunkenelephants @datarama Because humans also are the ones who interpret and enforce laws and if the government does not enforce copyright against companies which market their products as "AI", then copyright does not apply to those companies.

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pinkdrunkenelephants

@mcc @datarama I guess that's more of a bribery problem than a legal precedent one, then.

datarama

@pinkdrunkenelephants @mcc In the EU, there actually is some legislation. Copyright explicitly *doesn't* protect works from being used in machine learning for academic research, but ML training for commercial products must respect a "machine-readable opt-out".

But that's easy enough to get around. That's why eg. Stability funded an "independent research lab" who did the actual data gathering for them.

mcc replied to datarama

@datarama I consider this illegitimate and fundamentally unfair because I have already released large amounts of work under creative commons/open source licenses. I can't retroactively add terms to some of them because the plain language somehow no longer applies. If I add such opt-outs now, it would be like I'm admitting the licenses previously didn't apply to statistics-based derivative works

datarama replied to mcc

@mcc I consider it illegitimate and fundamentally unfair because it's opt-out.

pinkdrunkenelephants replied to datarama

@datarama @mcc I wonder why it is people don't just revolt and destroy their servers then. Or drag them into jail.

Why do people delude themselves into accepting atrocities?

datarama replied to pinkdrunkenelephants

@pinkdrunkenelephants @mcc I think if there was a simple clear-cut answer to that, the world would be a *very* different place.

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