@baishen @nightdice @hacks4pancakes we are going into a dark place here. I would like to start by saying that after being in various roles in IT for +20 years I honestly still have hope for people. Sometimes people act recklessly, sometimes they don't know better, sometimes they don't connect the dots quickly enough. People are mostly not malicious from my personal experience and in most cases they are willing to learn. As in any industry also in security there are assholes and as a (despite what the profile picture shows) white male I am fully aware of my privileged status which might affect the result here.
What I see in my personal experience is lack of willingness from people to invest in fundamentals how filesystems work, how network protocols work, how OSes run various processes in them, some basic (not language, level) coding, some basic concepts from cryptography. They are not required but they help a ton in understanding environments quickly and they allow to spot possible interesting problems between the boundaries of silos teams.

sorry for the wall of text, I was lurking here for a while already, but this topic struck that one note 🙂